As we spotlight the Carroll School鈥檚 2020 finance webinars, we take a moment to learn more about perennial Finance Conference co-chair and moderator Dan聽Holland聽鈥�79. In introducing keynote speaker Nick Burns 鈥�78, Holland聽said that Burns鈥櫬爎esume聽made him feel like 鈥渁n underachiever,鈥� but as you鈥檒l see below,聽Holland鈥檚 own achievements speak for themselves.听听
He was what they called a 鈥渓umper.鈥� Down in the hold of a commercial fishing vessel, clad in oilskins and wielding a pitchfork, Dan Holland unloaded tens of thousands of pounds of fish into basket after basket. Then he led a crew loading crates of the fish onto tractor-trailer trucks that would fan out from Provincetown, Massachusetts, bound for market.
That image does not likely spring to mind nowadays when Goldman Sachs clients meet Holland鈥攃lean-cut, sporting the tailored suits that are standard in Boston鈥檚 Financial District鈥攊n his capacity as the firm鈥檚 managing director of private wealth management for New England. Nor does Holland smell of the sea when he鈥檚 moderating a panel at the Boston College Carroll School of Management鈥檚 Finance Conference or chairing a meeting of John and Linda Powers Family Dean Andy Boynton鈥檚 Board of Advisors.
But 鈥淚 did a lot of things that aren鈥檛 on my resume,鈥� Holland says, on his long road to success in investment management. Today his role is 鈥渢o interpret geopolitics and economics and apply it to our clients鈥� portfolios,鈥� he says. It鈥檚 a challenge that he enjoys. 鈥淚 just find it intellectually interesting.鈥� And he brings to bear all the economics learning he received on the Heights. (Holland earned a bachelor鈥檚 degree in economics from 蝌蚪直播鈥檚 Morrissey College of Arts & Sciences in 1979.)
There are limits to forecasting, however. 鈥淯nlike in engineering,鈥� says Holland (who started and maintained propulsion engines on a Spruance-class destroyer, among other duties, in the U.S. Navy), 鈥渋n finance you never really solve the problem. Investing is making decisions based on incomplete information. You never really get to closure on a lot of things, because there are just so many moving parts.鈥�
In other words, finance鈥攋ust like Holland鈥檚 career鈥攈as never been easy. But that鈥檚 what makes it fun.
Holland spent summers working in the commercial fishing industry on Cape Cod while he was a Boston College student.
Like it or lump it
Growing up outside Hartford, Connecticut, Holland spent summers on Cape Cod, where as a teenager he was first mate on a charter boat that sailed out on recreational fishing trips. As a Boston College student on break, Holland would return to the Cape to work in the commercial fishing industry. 鈥淚 got paid four dollars for every thousand pounds [of fish] that I unloaded,鈥� he recalls of those summers.
Back in Chestnut Hill, Holland enjoyed his economics major but also appreciated the required Core courses such as history, philosophy, and theology, 鈥渢hings I probably never would have taken otherwise but that help you become a more well-rounded individual.鈥�
After graduation and another summer as a lumper, Holland trekked inland to Stowe, Vermont, to be a bartender and a ski bum. But that winter of 1979/鈥�80 was a poor one for snow. 鈥淚t was skiing on rocks and blue ice,鈥� Holland says. 鈥淲hen mud season came, I found an ad in聽驰补肠丑迟颈苍驳听magazine: Someone wanted a sailboat delivered from Palm Beach, Florida, up to Boston. So I took a few months and helped him sail his boat up the coast.鈥�
鈥淭hen,鈥� Holland recalls, 鈥淚 figured I鈥檇 better do something serious.鈥�
The Cold War and beyond
Inspired by the Herman Wouk book The Winds of War, Holland joined the Navy. He would spend four and a half years on active duty, attaining the rank of lieutenant. Out of San Diego, Holland鈥檚 destroyer embarked on Cold War missions long and short. On one deployment up the coast of Alaska, the ship shadowed Soviet intelligence vessels who were trying to track U.S. submarines.
A sign of the changing nature of threats from abroad came during a deployment to the Persian Gulf. Iran鈥檚 Ayatollah Khomeini had threatened to send small Cessna planes full of TNT to attack U.S. ships.听
鈥淲e went up into that area to sort of call their bluff,鈥� Holland recalls. 鈥淲hat was interesting about it was that our ships and weapons systems were designed to fight the Soviets, like to stop a missile coming in at Mach something over the horizon.鈥� The promised small planes, on the other hand, would be flying under the radar. 鈥淵ou couldn鈥檛 really detect them until the last minute. So it was back to kind of World War II technology, mounting 50-caliber guns up on the signal bridge鈥� and keeping those guns manned 24鈥�7. Fortunately, that attack failed to materialize.听
Later, during the subsequent four and a half years that Holland spent in the Navy Reserve as an intelligence officer, it became clear that the Soviet economy was collapsing. The annual 鈥渨ar game鈥� drills that Holland took part in shifted from simulating World War III scenarios to Third World flare-ups.
Rocky waters
Active-duty service, however, had gotten harder to handle when Holland and his wife, Deborah, started a family. Discharged from the Navy in 1986, Holland enrolled in business school at Wharton.
鈥淭he weekend of orientation,鈥� Holland recalls, 鈥渕y second son, Ryan, was born.鈥� Daniel was 10 and a half months old. 鈥淪o I had two kids under the age of one, and because I had left the Navy, we didn鈥檛 have any health care coverage.鈥� The Hollands had to take out a loan from the hospital, making monthly payments for three years. 鈥淲e paid him off on his third birthday!鈥澛�
The New York Stock Exchange trading floor on Wall Street during the 1980s, when Holland worked at Kidder Peabody.
Holland landed an internship, and then a part-time job, in the fixed-income division at Kidder Peabody on Wall Street. 鈥淔ixed-income was the Wild West back then,鈥� he remembers. 鈥淚t wasn鈥檛 exchange-traded; it was over-the-counter. Price discovery was at the trader鈥檚 desk.鈥� The scene on the trading floor was straight out of a movie. 鈥淧eople yelling and shouting . . . It was just a very fun environment to work in.鈥�
Nevertheless, that was a stressful time. 鈥淚 was working three jobs,鈥� says Holland, whose family would eventually grow to four children. 鈥淚 worked at Kidder Peabody on Fridays; I was still in the Navy Reserve, one weekend a month and two weeks a year; and I sold advertising in the Wharton facebook鈥� (the class directory). All while taking a full graduate course load and sharing parenting duties with his wife, who worked as a nurse.
Black Monday
The stress didn鈥檛 end after Holland graduated in August 1987 and began work in the fixed-income division of Goldman Sachs in Boston. That October, while Holland was in New York for the firm鈥檚 training program, the stock market crashed. The Dow dropped 508 points (22 percent) on October 22, the steepest one-day percentage drop in history.
鈥淭he morning of the crash,鈥� Holland recalls, 鈥淚 flew up to Boston to close on my first house, in Needham. I鈥檇 taken whatever savings I had, which wasn鈥檛 a lot, and leveraged myself up to the hilt to buy this house. Signed the papers, bought the house, and flew back to New York to continue the training program,鈥� all in the same day.
鈥淚 walked out onto the trading floor,鈥� Holland continues, 鈥渁nd the mood was just unbelievably sobering. I thought I鈥檇 be fired, my career had ended, and I had these two little kids and had just bought this house, I was in debt up to my ears. . . . It was very disconcerting.鈥�
Holland didn鈥檛 get the axe that day, or that week. Still, he says, 鈥淔or the next three years, I came in every day worrying about whether I鈥檇 have a job.鈥�
Steady hand on the tiller
Turning that worry into motivation, Holland hung on, worked hard, and rose through the ranks at Goldman Sachs. By the turn of the millennium, he was chief operating officer of fixed income, currency, and commodities sales for North America. He has run private wealth management in New England since 2010, advising ultra-high net-worth families and some small institutions.
The 鈥淲ild West鈥� days on the trading floor are gone, Holland says, and that鈥檚 a good thing. 鈥淭echnology has brought more efficiency, more transparency. It鈥檚 faster, it鈥檚 less error-prone.鈥�
Other market changes have been wrought by globalization, Holland says, 鈥渁nd geopolitical risk seems increasingly challenging to handicap.鈥� But he still credits his 蝌蚪直播 studies with helping him assess markets. 鈥淭he economics background was a solid underpinning for a better understanding of finance,鈥� he says, while the well-rounded curriculum made him better able to understand people.
Back on the Heights
Dan Holland speaks with Lawrence H. Summers, Charles W. Eliot Professor and President Emeritus at Harvard, during the 2016 Boston College Finance Conference.
That鈥檚 one reason Holland has maintained close connections with Boston College, in particular with the Carroll School, where two of his sons studied鈥擠aniel, 鈥�07, MBA鈥�12; and Ryan 鈥�08. He鈥檚 excited about the school鈥檚 momentum under the leadership of Boynton, who recently asked Holland to chair his Board of Advisors. The board is tasked with bringing the perspectives and needs of employers to curriculum decisions.
鈥淚t鈥檚 fun to be a part of these discussions on themes and trends in industry,鈥� says Holland. 鈥淎nd to see the School鈥檚 growth in the past decade. I mean, Andy started from a good place, but he鈥檚 really taken it to the next level.鈥�
Holland also takes pride in helping to launch, plan, and run the annual Finance Conference.听
鈥淭here鈥檚 so much intellectual capital at Boston College and the Carroll School, and the finance department in particular,鈥� says Holland. 鈥淭he conference is really an opportunity to showcase some of this talent to the rest of the world. And we鈥檙e fortunate to be able to attract some pretty high-powered speakers.鈥� For example, former U.S. Treasury secretary Larry Summers delivered the Daniel E. Holland III Keynote Address at the conference in 2016.听
Serving those who served
Holland is not only active as a 蝌蚪直播 alum; he鈥檚 also active in veterans鈥� affairs. For one thing, he is an overseer of the USS Constitution Museum. (His son Ryan, who has also served in the Navy, spent some time as a commissioned officer aboard 鈥淥ld Ironsides.鈥�) He鈥檚 a trustee and treasurer of the Naval War College, in Newport, Rhode Island; and a member of the Boston chapter of Business Executives for National Security, a group that meets national defense challenges with private-sector expertise.听
Holland also used his professional know-how to help steward the finances of the New England Center and Home for Veterans, in his role on the board of that nonprofit organization. The center provides transitional housing for veterans in need.听
鈥淚f you鈥檙e trying to get a job and get back on your feet, one of the most important things is to have a place to live,鈥� says Holland. 鈥淟ike in any population, there鈥檚 a subset that falls on hard times and falls to the bottom. They just need a little extra help. These are folks who have served our country, and you want to try to be supportive and help them help themselves.鈥�
鈥淚 think 蝌蚪直播, through the Jesuit foundation, helped form that mentality of giving back to the community,鈥� adds Holland, who has also 蝌蚪直播 a Boston College scholarship. 鈥淚 feel passionate about giving back and making sure others have the opportunities that I did. It all ties in.鈥�
鈥�Patrick L. Kennedy, Morrissey College 鈥�99, is a contributing writer at the Carroll School of Management.听听